Having some form of socialized health care so people don't go bankrupt
paying medical bills? Being able to provide care for people before they
need to go to an emergency room because they don't have a means of
obtaining health care otherwise?

I have always wondered why it is not mandatory for doctors to provide a
certain amount of pro-bono work like lawyers supposedly do. I guess you
run the risk of attracting melingerers, but maybe requiring them to work a
day a week at a low-income clinic would be helpful to the populace.

Seems like you sometimes hear stories of the local "country" doctor who did things for free, but that was probably before malpractice suits became
cost prohibitive.

Providing school lunches so kids who otherwise wouldn't get a
meal can go through school with something in their stomach and learn
more effectively?

If they were to come up with programs that teamed with local farm banks, or farmers, they might even get better food than the other kids do.

I've been called far left on the Fido Politics board.

Compared to an ultra-MAGA, just about everyone is "far left." ;)


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The "answer" to all of that, by the Left, is to increase taxes on all of
us, rather than STOPPING the corruption and blatant mis-management.
That's a problem for me. <SHRUG>

Me also. Lately, the knee-jerk reaction to the corruption and
mis-management is to pull the plugs on the programs all together, which
still does nothing to the politicians who were abusing them while hurting
those that actually did benefit.


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Re: Re: Most memorable modern
By: Dumas Walker to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Sat May 31 2025 11:08 am

I have always wondered why it is not mandatory for doctors to provide a certain amount of pro-bono work like lawyers supposedly do. I guess you
run the risk of attracting melingerers, but maybe requiring them to work a

what are you gay or something? if you are looking to get a boner go to a bathhouse or something.

anyways, yearly physicals are free. or you can do what i did and get your free yearly physical and have your nurse practitioner run up a huge bill just because you mentioned that you pulled a muscle cutting grass going up a hill.

that bitch did an ekg and all kinds of shit. unwarranted.

Seems like you sometimes hear stories of the local "country" doctor who did things for free, but that was probably before malpractice suits became
cost prohibitive.

do you work for free? i dont.

Providing school lunches so kids who otherwise wouldn't get a
meal can go through school with something in their stomach and learn
more effectively?

what? who? a doctor did that? usually there's some program in schools for discounted or free lunches. we all pay for it for them in some way.
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Providing school lunches so kids who otherwise wouldn't get a
meal can go through school with something in their stomach and learn more effectively?

what? who? a doctor did that? usually there's some program in schools for discounted or free lunches. we all pay for it for them in some way.

That isn't my quote. You'd have to ask the OP.


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Re: Re: Most memorable modern
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Sun Jun 01 2025 09:58 am

That isn't my quote. You'd have to ask the OP.

oh sorry i was replying too fast.
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Re: Re: Most memorable modern
By: Dumas Walker to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Sat May 31 2025 11:08 am

I have always wondered why it is not mandatory for doctors to provide a certain amount of pro-bono work like lawyers supposedly do. I guess you
run the risk of attracting melingerers, but maybe requiring them to work a day a week at a low-income clinic would be helpful to the populace.

I think we should pass a bill to have car mechanics, software developers and system administrators work a day per week in some low-income project. It would be certainly helpful for the population to have a car mechanic fix people's cars at half the price the repair is worth XD


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Re: Re: Most memorable modern
By: Dumas Walker to GAMGEE on Sat May 31 2025 11:10 am

Me also. Lately, the knee-jerk reaction to the corruption and mis-management is to pull the plugs on the programs all together, which still does nothing to the politicians who were abusing them while hurting those that actually did benefit.

I think Milei has already shown the way, not we just need more people to follow.

For those who don't know, the way is to identify things that are broken and, rather than attempting to fix them, consider them unsalvageable, amputate them outright and then build something anew.

So say, airlines are socialized and they are losing a lot of money and also failed to provide service. The Milei way is to declare it unsalvageable and separate it from the government entirely to prevent the cancer from affecting the administration. A good approach he is taking is giving this stuff to the workers - yeah, now every worker is a shareholder of the company, just as both commies and nazies want it, and the tax payer needs not pay for it unless they want to take a plane.

Or maybe a government agency is so bloated and costly and failing to provide service. The soultion? Sack fucking everybody out and rebuild a replacement from the ground up. Recent experimentation shows they could replace their tax collecting bodies with new ones that weighted 75% less or so.

Viva la libertad, carajo!


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Re: Re: Most memorable modern
By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Sat May 31 2025 07:09 pm

Providing school lunches so kids who otherwise wouldn't get a
meal can go through school with something in their stomach and learn more effectively?

what? who? a doctor did that? usually there's some program in schools for discounted or free lunches. we all pay for it for them in some way.

Fun fact, we used to have a Doctor here who would work like a mule in order to raise money, then he would periodically do trips to Africa in order to provide charity service over there.


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Re: Re: Most memorable modern
By: Arelor to MRO on Tue Jun 03 2025 11:53 am

Fun fact, we used to have a Doctor here who would work like a mule in order to raise money, then he would periodically do trips to Africa in order to provide charity service over there.

a lot of times they get paid by the country. i knew a guy who would go over there and do medical shit and even pull teeth. it was like a paid vacation for him.
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Me also. Lately, the knee-jerk reaction to the corruption and mis-management is to pull the plugs on the programs all together, which still does nothing to the politicians who were abusing them while hurting those that actually did benefit.

I think Milei has already shown the way, not we just need more people to follow.

Musk tried that and screwed a bunch of stuff up because there are laws
against that here. There *are* ways to do a lot of it legally, he just
didn't bother to figure out how.


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It makes me wonder if it is the same printer making company that had 10 open possitions, organized an exam, picked the 7 best and then 3 random DEI picks, and eventually none of the DEI picks showed up for the job. And then when they
went to pick the next 3 best they had excluded they could not find them. Karma
is a bitch..

Sounds like the issue is picking "random" people, DEI or otherwise. If
they felt like they had to pick "3 DEI," they should have picked the 3 best
to start with and not 3 "random" ones.


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Re: Re: Most memorable modern
By: Dumas Walker to ARELOR on Wed Jun 04 2025 08:12 am

Musk tried that and screwed a bunch of stuff up because there are laws against that here. There *are* ways to do a lot of it legally, he just didn't bother to figure out how.

whats screwed up? i dont see anything screwed up.
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Musk tried that and screwed a bunch of stuff up because there are laws against that here. There *are* ways to do a lot of it legally, he just didn't bother to figure out how.

whats screwed up? i dont see anything screwed up.

They fired a bunch of NWS employees. After a couple of deadly storm
outbreaks, they are trying to hire a bunch of them back (125 at last count).

Similar things happened at the FAA... fired a bunch of people then realized they needed a bunch of them back.

There are other instances of them "firing" people but having to continue
paying them, to not work, because the manner in which they were fired is legally questionable.


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Re: Re: Most memorable modern
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Thu Jun 05 2025 07:48 am

whats screwed up? i dont see anything screwed up.

They fired a bunch of NWS employees. After a couple of deadly storm outbreaks, they are trying to hire a bunch of them back (125 at last count).

dude that shit happens all the time in the govt. i think that was just some shit the media was focusing on.

i'm sure a lot of them got the axe (if they even did) because they were supposed to reply back to that email and did not. on facebook there were people saying that they refused to do that email contact form.

regarding the people in my area who got the axe, their jobs seemed like fake jobs where somehow they got in a position where they did very little or nothing.

furthermore govt workers have the ability to use an internal site to transfer to other positions. i just think it was media hype mostly.

that firing and rehiring shit happens frequently without elon.
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Re: Re: Most memorable modern
By: Dumas Walker to ARELOR on Wed Jun 04 2025 08:13 am

Sounds like the issue is picking "random" people, DEI or otherwise. If
they felt like they had to pick "3 DEI," they should have picked the 3 best to start with and not 3 "random" ones.

I think the problem there is there are many DEI candidates to pick from and human resources kind of asumes they aren't going to be good, therefore they don't care.

I mean, the purpose of those 3 picks is not to work, it is to fill the statistics in the HR spreadshet.

What bothers me is they kicked 3 candidates from the regular pool in order to bring people in who didn't even bother to show up later.

Fuck this shit.


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Re: Re: Most memorable modern
By: Dumas Walker to ARELOR on
Wed Jun 04 2025 08:13 am

Sounds like the issue is picking "random" people, DEI or otherwise. If
they felt like they had to pick "3 DEI," they should have picked the 3 best to start with and not 3 "random" ones.

I think the problem there is there are many DEI candidates to pick from and human resources kind of asumes they aren't going to be good,
therefore they don't care.

I mean, the purpose of those 3 picks is not to work, it is to fill the statistics in the HR spreadshet.

What bothers me is they kicked 3 candidates from the regular pool in
order to bring people in who didn't even bother to show up later.

Fuck this shit.

As a hiring manager, you have to wonder whether good candidates, who
happened to be White and/or male were filtered out by HR.

I know that HR *DO* engage in selection based on race and gender. DEI
and quotas have legalised this behaviour.

The most troubling thing, is HR is mostly White Women, who seem to
think that working against White Men is in their interest. Bizarre.


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whats screwed up? i dont see anything screwed up.

They fired a bunch of NWS employees. After a couple of deadly storm outbreaks, they are trying to hire a bunch of them back (125 at last count)

dude that shit happens all the time in the govt. i think that was just some shit the media was focusing on.

Not to this degree it does not.

i'm sure a lot of them got the axe (if they even did) because they were supposed to reply back to that email and did not. on facebook there were people saying that they refused to do that email contact form.

You should never respond to someone without going through your chain of command. It looked very much like a potential phishing scheme, which is something you should never respond to. I have seen the email and would
have reported it to our IT Security team.

regarding the people in my area who got the axe, their jobs seemed like fake jobs where somehow they got in a position where they did very little or nothing.

That is possible. If it is dealt with through the proper channels, then
you get them fired, they stay fired, and you don't have to keep paying them
to do nothing.

that firing and rehiring shit happens frequently without elon.

Not to the extent that it happened here.


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Sounds like the issue is picking "random" people, DEI or otherwise. If they felt like they had to pick "3 DEI," they should have picked the 3 best
to start with and not 3 "random" ones.

I think the problem there is there are many DEI candidates to pick from and human resources kind of asumes they aren't going to be good, therefore they don't care.

That is a screwed up way to think about it. You can get what looks like a
"DEI candidate" (to persons who care) but who is also really, really good at what they do.

I mean, the purpose of those 3 picks is not to work, it is to fill the statistics in the HR spreadshet.

See above. You can check off the box and get a good worker. That is not anywhere near impossible if HR is doing their job.

Now, if the whole process was to get *7* jobs filled, and hire three people
to check boxes that you know won't show up, that is something else... and
is also messed up, just in a different way.

What bothers me is they kicked 3 candidates from the regular pool in order to bring people in who didn't even bother to show up later.

Fuck this shit.

Still sounds like their damn fault for assuming those who could "check
their boxes" could also be good workers.


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Well, for starters, any political program that talks about
"reparations" consisting in you having to pay a protected group for something somebody else did to a third party 250 years ago. It is virtually blaming you for things done by other person just because you happen to be an evil white motherfucker who has to pay.

That's a very reductive argument. There's been 250 years of systemic
prejudice against a people that somehow needs to be remedied. The
people who've lived under those conditions are the poorest, most
incarcerated, least represented citizens.

The issue is how to remedy it without punishing those that are not involved
in perpetuating the prejudice. Most of what our government will likely
come up with will likely involve "punishing" the general populace
(including the persons supposedly being remedied to) while doing very
little to any politicians or business leaders who are playing active roles
in these issues.

Our current administration is actively removing tributes to
famous and successful African-Americans.

This in particular is really stupid. Why bother? It only costs money to
do what they are doing. If they are famous and successful, they should be celebrated as "American success stories" rather than actively suppressing
their memories.


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Our current administration is actively removing tributes to
famous and successful African-Americans.

Haven't heard about this one. Any examples that you could provide?

Google "US renaming Tubman" to find something regarding the renaming of
naval ships. IMHO, it was a little odd to name ships after civil
rights leaders, social activists, and Supreme Court members who weren't in the Navy.

That isn't saying that some of them, like Tubman, don't have a very
significant place in our country's history, as they do, but I think it was
a little weird they named a ship after Ruth Bader Ginsberg to begin with.
That said, it was done and I don't really support spending the time,
effort, and money on changing these things.

They have also considered renaming a military base or two. Fort Cavazos,
the former Ft Hood, is one that has been floated as up for a possible
rename (back to Ft Hood). The person it was renamed after is a former
military man -- a four star general -- so the name makes more sense. But, since he's hispanic (and Hood was CSA), having his name on it is "DEI."

Also, is this like the previous administration removing all kinds of tributes/statues/memorials of famous and successful Southern-Americans
from the Civil War era, because of what they stood for? Oh, and also
like the renaming of military installations because they had
"offensive" names?

I didn't necessarily support the renaming of Ft. Hood but, now that it is
done and (IMHO) it was renamed after someone deserving, I don't support changing it again. It was wasteful then and would be wasteful now.

I'm not claiming reparations are the solution I'd choose, but the
problem persists.

What solution *would* you choose, pray tell? How, exactly, can this
problem be "fixed"?

I am not sure there is a solution, at least not one that the government
would come up with. IMHO, it would be best remedied if persons could stop looking at the color or sex of an individual and base everything on their merits but, in practice, I am not sure humans are capable of doing so.


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Re: Re: Most memorable modern
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Fri Jun 06 2025 09:44 am

dude that shit happens all the time in the govt. i think that was just some shit the media was focusing on.

Not to this degree it does not.

how do you know? you are only going off what the media is telling you.

You should never respond to someone without going through your chain of command. It looked very much like a potential phishing scheme, which is something you should never respond to. I have seen the email and would
have reported it to our IT Security team.

their bosses told them to fill it out.

I had my HR have me fill out an employment survey. it didn't some from my boss. it came right from HR. I did the exact same thing, i explained my duties and expressed any concerns and i got to meet with them again and i got a pay raise and i got my job matrix fixed. stop acting like this shit doesn't happen.

media has you on a hook. quit being a simp for the media, dude.
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Our current administration is actively removing tributes to
famous and successful African-Americans.

Haven't heard about this one. Any examples that you could provide?

Google "US renaming Tubman" to find something regarding the renaming of naval ships. IMHO, it was a little odd to name ships after civil
rights leaders, social activists, and Supreme Court members who weren't
in the Navy.

Agreed, very odd. Not acceptable, even.

That isn't saying that some of them, like Tubman, don't have a very significant place in our country's history, as they do, but I think it
was a little weird they named a ship after Ruth Bader Ginsberg to begin with. That said, it was done and I don't really support spending the
time, effort, and money on changing these things.

Fully agree on the significance of Tubman, just not on the chosen method
of recognition. No way that RBG gets that honor, other than DEI. I'm
for changing both of those ship names. There are others, too - I
recently saw something about the USS Harvey Milk being considered for re-naming also. Another 100% DEI thing, and should be un-done.

They have also considered renaming a military base or two. Fort
Cavazos, the former Ft Hood, is one that has been floated as up for a possible rename (back to Ft Hood). The person it was renamed after is
a former military man -- a four star general -- so the name makes more sense. But, since he's hispanic (and Hood was CSA), having his name on
it is "DEI."

Just another un-doing of a mistake by Biden and company. Like it or
not, the Civil War and the CSA are parts of our history.

Also, is this like the previous administration removing all kinds of tributes/statues/memorials of famous and successful Southern-Americans
from the Civil War era, because of what they stood for? Oh, and also
like the renaming of military installations because they had
"offensive" names?

I didn't necessarily support the renaming of Ft. Hood but, now that it
is done and (IMHO) it was renamed after someone deserving, I don't
support changing it again. It was wasteful then and would be wasteful now.

Send the bill to Biden.

I'm not claiming reparations are the solution I'd choose, but the
problem persists.

What solution *would* you choose, pray tell? How, exactly, can this
problem be "fixed"?

I am not sure there is a solution, at least not one that the government would come up with. IMHO, it would be best remedied if persons could
stop looking at the color or sex of an individual and base everything
on their merits but, in practice, I am not sure humans are capable of doing so.

Absolutely right, but I agree that it's likely not possible. What isn't
right is to have people/taxpayers pay money to people who are
generations removed from anybody who was mistreated. "Correcting" a
wrong by committing another wrong is not the way.



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